Discussion:
Tilde (~) in version 5+
Frederic Gos
2016-11-11 14:38:31 UTC
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Hi Peeps,

I have a strange problem with the appimage 5+ releases og kdevelop. Since
5.0, I cannot
use Alt-gr + tilde + space to get the tilde char for destructors. Im using
xubuntu 16.10 with xfce.

The strange thing is that it's only in Kdevelop this doesnt work anymore,
all my other editors/programs are fine with it.

Back 6 month ago or or so I was running the 4.9xx beta version from source
that I had built, and that works fine, etc. So it's since 5.0 +. I've tried
5.0, 5.0.1 and 5.0.2 and they all fail. I've tried under an plain ubuntu
16.10 in a WM under windows 10, and there the 5.0 release work fine.

Any ideas what I could try?

brgds
Frederic Gos
Kevin Funk
2016-11-17 09:12:35 UTC
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Post by Frederic Gos
Hi Peeps,
I have a strange problem with the appimage 5+ releases og kdevelop. Since
5.0, I cannot
use Alt-gr + tilde + space to get the tilde char for destructors. Im using
xubuntu 16.10 with xfce.
The strange thing is that it's only in Kdevelop this doesnt work anymore,
all my other editors/programs are fine with it.
Are the other programs Qt5-based, too?

Does changing Keyboard layouts help, maybe?

See e.g.: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=94178
Post by Frederic Gos
Back 6 month ago or or so I was running the 4.9xx beta version from source
that I had built, and that works fine, etc. So it's since 5.0 +.
Hmm, no idea how that could start to fail during 5.0 beta to 5.0+...
Post by Frederic Gos
I've tried
5.0, 5.0.1 and 5.0.2 and they all fail. I've tried under an plain ubuntu
16.10 in a WM under windows 10, and there the 5.0 release work fine.
Unrelated: Happy with the Windows version? Any issues? (/me likes feedback)

Cheers,
Kevin
Post by Frederic Gos
Any ideas what I could try?
brgds
Frederic Gos
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René J.V. Bertin
2016-11-17 09:53:55 UTC
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On Thursday November 17 2016 10:12:35 Kevin Funk wrote:

FWIW, I'm seeing something similar on and off on my KDE4 desktop, also only in KDE applications.
I have 2 layouts configured, "English US" in the "English (Macintosh)" variant, and "French" (no variant; only there because my physical keyboard is French). I usually use the English layout because I get all the accent with Mac-inspired deadkey combinations (AltGr-e+e -> é, AltGr-n+n -> ñ) but periodically those deadkey combinations start inserting the accent immediately. I don't think that happens more than once a day, which means it happens at some point after a wake-from-sleep.
Usually it's enough to toggle to and from the French layout using the layout widget in a panel, but sometimes I have to do some actual typing in the French layout before it "sticks".

I've asked about this on the general KDE ML; no one seemed to have a clue.

I notice it only in KMail2 4.1x; next time I'll check if KF5 apps are afflicted, but the go-to non-Qt app I've always got open (GChrome) isn't. That means it cannot be a hardware issue but it must be something in the way KDE (or Qt!) handles keyboard layouts.

R.
Post by Kevin Funk
Post by Frederic Gos
5.0, I cannot
use Alt-gr + tilde + space to get the tilde char for destructors. Im using
xubuntu 16.10 with xfce.
The strange thing is that it's only in Kdevelop this doesnt work anymore,
all my other editors/programs are fine with it.
Are the other programs Qt5-based, too?
Does changing Keyboard layouts help, maybe?
See e.g.: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=94178
Frederic Gos
2016-11-17 10:11:13 UTC
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Hi Kevin,

I found a way around it. I've set my keyboard layout to Danish (eliminate
dead keys), and the problem goes away. It might give me other problems later
if I need special chars, but so be it.
Post by Kevin Funk
Are the other programs Qt5-based, too?
I don't really know. It's programs like sublime 3.0, Eclipse (mars),
QtCreator, gedit, etc etc
Post by Kevin Funk
Does changing Keyboard layouts help, maybe?
Yep, see above.
Post by Kevin Funk
Unrelated: Happy with the Windows version? Any issues? (/me likes feedback)
I havent tried it on windows yet but will shortly. I'll let you know what I
think then. :)
I mentioned win 10 only because I have a plain ubuntu VM image
there where the problem is not there. So it's only xubuntu where it fails.

But thanks for headsup, I'm a happy camper now. Kdevelop 5 is awesome!

/cheers
Frederic
Post by Kevin Funk
Post by Frederic Gos
Hi Peeps,
I have a strange problem with the appimage 5+ releases og kdevelop. Since
5.0, I cannot
use Alt-gr + tilde + space to get the tilde char for destructors. Im
using
Post by Frederic Gos
xubuntu 16.10 with xfce.
The strange thing is that it's only in Kdevelop this doesnt work anymore,
all my other editors/programs are fine with it.
Are the other programs Qt5-based, too?
Does changing Keyboard layouts help, maybe?
See e.g.: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=94178
Post by Frederic Gos
Back 6 month ago or or so I was running the 4.9xx beta version from
source
Post by Frederic Gos
that I had built, and that works fine, etc. So it's since 5.0 +.
Hmm, no idea how that could start to fail during 5.0 beta to 5.0+...
Post by Frederic Gos
I've tried
5.0, 5.0.1 and 5.0.2 and they all fail. I've tried under an plain ubuntu
16.10 in a WM under windows 10, and there the 5.0 release work fine.
Unrelated: Happy with the Windows version? Any issues? (/me likes feedback)
Cheers,
Kevin
Post by Frederic Gos
Any ideas what I could try?
brgds
Frederic Gos
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René J.V. Bertin
2016-11-17 11:25:09 UTC
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Post by Frederic Gos
I mentioned win 10 only because I have a plain ubuntu VM image
there where the problem is not there. So it's only xubuntu where it fails.
Is the xubuntu set-up a VM too?

R.
Frederic Gos
2016-11-17 11:38:06 UTC
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Hi Rene,
Post by René J.V. Bertin
Is the xubuntu set-up a VM too?
No it's bare metal on my work labtop. Windows is my desktop at home. :)

br
Frederic
Post by René J.V. Bertin
Post by Frederic Gos
I mentioned win 10 only because I have a plain ubuntu VM image
there where the problem is not there. So it's only xubuntu where it
fails.
Is the xubuntu set-up a VM too?
R.
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